Subject: Re: Slightly Off-Topic...
To: Greg A. Woods <woods@weird.com>
From: Vance Dereksen <vance@ikickass.org>
List: port-vax
Date: 06/25/2001 19:10:23
But the first VAXen weren't microprocceor based.

Peace...  Sridhar

On Mon, 25 Jun 2001, Greg A. Woods wrote:

> [ On Monday, June 25, 2001 at 13:40:52 (-0400), Dave McGuire wrote: ]
> > Subject: Re: Slightly Off-Topic...
> >
> >   Good lord, the 6502?  I actually like to have some REGISTERS in my
> > processors, thank you. ;)
> 
> What do you mean?  Thera are 256 ready to use!  (They just happen to
> reside in RAM...  :-)
> 
> >   Yes, but those were some WEIRD designs.
> 
> What do you mean, exactly?  The WE32000 almost *is* a VAX (done right ;-)!
> 
> The NS16032 and NS32032 are very much like a VAX too, at least
> architecturally.  The NS guys claimed a much tighter instruction set,
> and their MMU is probably better in sime respects....  They certainly
> seemed to run faster than a MicroVAX at the same clock speed !  ;-)
> 
> > > Of course they all paid homage back to the VAX....
> > 
> >   ...which is newer than most of the processors that we discussed
> > above, strangely enough.
> 
> Well, as far as I know the VAX is not not newer than the WE32000, and
> it's definitely newer than the NS16000 (1983).  The first VAXen shipped
> in 1978.  The 4004, 6502, 1802, and 8085 are the only ones mentioned so
> far that are older, and they're all less than 16 bits so not even
> vaguely on-topic for unix types....  :-)
> 
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