Re: NetBSD/vax current

[David Brownlee <abs%netbsd.org@localhost>]

On 24 April 2014 00:40, Dave McGuire <mcguire%neurotica.com@localhost> wrote:
> On 04/19/2014 11:56 AM, David Brownlee wrote:
>>>> Right, so, this points out something which seems obvious to me but perhaps
>>>> it's not: *Of course* it takes longer, because the workload is not at all
>>>> the same.
>>>
>>> Ayup. 30 seconds from entering username until I get a password prompt is
>>> clearly asking the system to do much more today than in the past, so
>>> obviously it is just as expected, and nothing to even talk about.
>>
>> The system now processes through all the PAM infrastructure, which
>> provides a bunch of additional functionality. Whether that
>> functionality is worthwhile is certainly a valid discussion.
>
>   [sorry, I fell behind on email due to a trip]
>
>   If the PAM infrastructure is so poorly-written as to incur THAT much
> overhead, then I consider that in itself to be a bug.  I realize that it
> brings a great deal of functionality to the table, but man, at some
> point one just has to admit that something is "overdone".  PAM
> definitely falls into that category as far as I'm concerned.

Lets find out - is there anyone with a slow vax interested in timing
login on a normal vs MKPAM=no system? I'm happy to build a MKPAM=no
for a specified version if it helps. If not I can do it under simh,
but the numbers will be less useful...