Re: Native builds?

[Paul Koning <paulkoning%comcast.net@localhost>]

The VAX port has had some problems in its instruction generation at times.  I remember some discussion about one, including possible fixes I think -- something to do with INSV instructions?  I would assume the bug you ran into is simply one of those, a wrong code generation error that would show up in any run, native or cross.  There's nothing about native vs. cross that affects how code generation works.

Some internal compiler errors are tricky, but illegal instruction ones tend to be not all that hard.  

Are there active VAX port maintainers?  While GCC is a large program with complex internals, the target part is fairly small and pretty well documented.  Taking up maintenance of a simple port like VAX is quite doable.

Given that I don't think this has to do with native vs. cross, I would say that one should care.  I have enough of a spare time sink being pdp11 target maintainer so I'm not going to volunteer for this one.  For those who understand VAX well, I'd suggest picking up the GCC Internals manual and reading chapters 17 and 18, that's the basics of what you need to know to tackle this.

	paul


> On Aug 29, 2018, at 8:17 AM, Johnny Billquist <bqt%softjar.se@localhost> wrote:
> 
> Have anyone tried building natively lately?
> 
> I just tried on an 8650 with 8.0 Stable. The results were depressing.
> 
> ===> build.sh command:    ./build.sh build
> ===> build.sh started:    Wed Aug 29 14:00:03 CEST 2018
> ===> NetBSD version:      8.0_STABLE
> ===> MACHINE:             vax
> ===> MACHINE_ARCH:        vax
> ===> Build platform:      NetBSD 8.0_STABLE vax
> ===> HOST_SH:             /bin/sh
> ===> No $TOOLDIR/bin/nbmake, needs building.
> ===> Bootstrapping nbmake
> checking for sh... /bin/sh
> checking for gcc... cc
> checking for C compiler default output... a.out
> checking whether the C compiler works... yes
> checking whether we are cross compiling... no
> checking for executable suffix...
> checking for object suffix... o
> checking whether we are using the GNU C compiler... yes
> checking whether cc accepts -g... yes
> checking how to run the C preprocessor... cc -E
> checking for regex.h... yes
> checking for poll.h... yes
> checking for regfree in -lregex... no
> checking for library containing regfree... none required
> checking for setenv... yes
> checking for strdup... yes
> checking for strerror... yes
> checking for strftime... yes
> checking for vsnprintf... yes
> configure: creating ./config.status
> config.status: creating buildmake.sh
> cc  -D_PATH_DEFSYSPATH="/usr/src/share/mk" -DDEFSHELL_CUSTOM="/bin/sh" -DHAVE_SETENV=1 -DHAVE_STRDUP=1 -DHAVE_STRERROR=1 -DHAVE_STRFTIME=1 -DHAVE_VSNPRINTF=1  -O -c /usr/src/usr.bin/make/arch.c
> /usr/src/usr.bin/make/arch.c: In function 'ArchStatMember':
> /usr/src/usr.bin/make/arch.c:720:1: internal compiler error: Illegal instruction
> }
> ^
> no stack trace because unwind library not available
> Please submit a full bug report,
> with preprocessed source if appropriate.
> See <http://www.NetBSD.org/support/send-pr.html> for instructions.
> 
> ERROR: Build of nbmake failed
> *** BUILD ABORTED ***
> 
> 
> The system I'm running was cross compiler from an amd64 system.
> 
> 
> Du we care? Anyone feel comfortable at looking at gcc internals? I generally don't.
> 
>  Johnny
> 
> -- 
> Johnny Billquist                  || "I'm on a bus
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