Subject: Re: CVS commit: src/sys/kern
To: John Hawkinson <jhawk@MIT.EDU>
From: Frank Kardel <kardel@netbsd.org>
List: source-changes
Date: 08/06/2006 09:13:34
John Hawkinson wrote:

>Christos Zoulas <christos@astron.com> wrote on Sun,  6 Aug 2006
>at 05:09:21 +0000 in <eb3ti1$h7b$1@sea.gmane.org>:
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>>>I'm just afraid such not-so-meaningful digits might confuse
>>>some users.
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>>I agree with that assessment.
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>You're kidding? Surely users will say "look, it's a big number," and
>go on with their lives. If the presence of big numbers confuses them,
>they probably have serious other problems we can't fix.
>
>I agree with Perry's assessment that it is nice to have the raw data.
>I'd much rather the OS not make decisions for me about what is
>significant and what is not.
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>--jhawk
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AFAICS the raw data is still available in sysctl kern.timecounter.choice.
Given that debugging primarily starts after getting to single user or
further. Shouldn't that be enough?
Psychologically I agree that most users don't recognize the significance
of certain NTSC or whatever derived oscillator frequencies. For 
debugging I do
use the precise numbers, though. So access to them should not go away 
(-> ...choice).

Frank