In message: <20070626143559.GM4321@mail.msys.ch>
            Marc Balmer <marc@msys.ch> writes:
: * M. Warner Losh wrote:
: > In message: <19578.1182847028@dtsp.co.nz>
: >             david.sainty@dtsp.co.nz writes:
: > : "M. Warner Losh" writes:
: > : 
: > : > In message: <10105.1182771473@dtsp.co.nz>
: > : >             david.sainty@dtsp.co.nz writes:
: > : > : Brilliant!  I have been working on this, and throwing up my hands in
: > : > : horror over the slapstick OpenBSD changes!  Not to mention the nasty
: > : > : state of the device definitions added for this driver in the OpenBSD
: > : > : usbdevs (dups, definitions all over the place).
: > : > 
: > : > The BSDs should just share one usbdevs.  Having multiple ones is just
: > : > silly.
: > : 
: > : But it should be the NetBSD one, I'm pretty sure the FreeBSD one had
: > : copies of the same mistakes when I looked :)
: > 
: > It shouldn't be the NetBSD because it is missing a number of entries
: > that are in the FreeBSD one.  Also, its entries are purposely
: > truncated: bug or feature is debatable.
: > 
: > It shouldn't be the FreeBSD one because it is missing a number of
: > entries in the OpenBSD one.
: > 
: > It shouldn't be the OpenBSD one because it is missing a number of
: > entries in the NetBSD one.
: > 
: > Etc.
: > 
: > I've also fixed the FreeBSD one to fix the mistakes (like the NetBSD
: > one gets fixed from time to time).  I've fixed this mistakes in the
: > NetBSD one as well.  Ditto to the OpenBSD one.  I've been doing this
: > for years.
: > 
: > At this point, the one I have in FreeBSD is close to being the best
: > superset to them all.  The biggest difference is that NetBSD's uses
: > shorter names, sometimes arbitrarily so, for many of the company and
: > device names.  To effectively share, we need to figure out how to
: > generate the shorter names from the longer names.  NetBSD did this for
: > kernel space reasons since it compiles this file into the kernel.
: > FreeBSD doesn't, by default.  Ideally, if one group wants to subset
: > the file for inclusion into the tree, then that subsetting should be
: > done mechanically from the common file.
: > 
: > I have uncommitted patches in my tree that parse this file and report
: > via usbdevs any matches that are found in this file in a verbose and
: > useful way.
: > 
: > The bottom line is that there needs to be a *MERGED* version, and that
: > *MERGED* version will likely have code impacts in *ALL* the BSDs.
: > I'll do the leg-work in FreeBSD and NetBSD, but someone needs to
: > integrate into OpenBSD.  I'll also let others do the NetBSD work too,
: > I'm not proud.
: 
: Just a short sign of live...  I am discussing this on the OpenBSD side,
: but one person involved has it's exams right now and is a bit short on
: time.

There's no URGENT need to get it done TODAY, but I'd like to get it
done soon.

I can even help with patches, if a strawman would help.

Warner