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On 10/16/07, Hubert Feyrer <hubert@feyrer.de> wrote:
>
> On Tue, 16 Oct 2007, Jared D. McNeill wrote:
> >>> In your opinion, should we move more of NetBSD into pkgsrc? If so, how
> do
> >>> we handle maintenance of first party software in pkgsrc?
> >>
> >> If by "first party software" you mean what we have in base today (and
> what
> >> wasn't imported from random places), then I'd say: not at all.
> >
> > No, by "first party software" I mean the web server that was written and
> > imported (as I gathered from reading the rest of this thread) with the
> intent
> > of doing ongoing development and maintenance in the NetBSD tree.
> >
> > My question remains.
>
> I don't know, sorry.
> Last I've checked, NetBSD was an operating system project.
>
>
> >> Have (keep/get) a small core system, and add the rest via a packaging
> >> system.



Because syspkgs works so well?

>
> > So we should move more to pkgsrc? Where do you draw the line?
>
> Kernel, packaging tools, no idea what else.


I'm actually in favor of *more* things that land in a proper crossbuild
environment.


I see a number of arguments here that I'd classify as "Best is the enemy of
Good."  I think that this inclusion will allow us to add greater flexibility
to the system in the future and reach more users.

And dear god, wtf are we still shipping X11 with the distribution?  That
should be in pkgsrc!  [;-)

-=erik.
(Now we just need a lightweight web browser to add to xbase.)

-- 
"Exactly two things have made airline travel safer since 9/11: reinforcement
of cockpit doors, and passengers who now know that they may have to fight
back. Everything else ... is security theater." --Bruce Schneier

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<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 10/16/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Hubert Feyrer</b> &lt;<a href="mailto:hubert@feyrer.de">hubert@feyrer.de</a>&gt; wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
On Tue, 16 Oct 2007, Jared D. McNeill wrote:<br>&gt;&gt;&gt; In your opinion, should we move more of NetBSD into pkgsrc? If so, how do<br>&gt;&gt;&gt; we handle maintenance of first party software in pkgsrc?<br>&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; If by &quot;first party software&quot; you mean what we have in base today (and what<br>&gt;&gt; wasn&#39;t imported from random places), then I&#39;d say: not at all.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; No, by &quot;first party software&quot; I mean the web server that was written and
<br>&gt; imported (as I gathered from reading the rest of this thread) with the intent<br>&gt; of doing ongoing development and maintenance in the NetBSD tree.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; My question remains.<br><br>I don&#39;t know, sorry.
<br>Last I&#39;ve checked, NetBSD was an operating system project.<br><br><br>&gt;&gt; Have (keep/get) a small core system, and add the rest via a packaging<br>&gt;&gt; system.</blockquote><div><br><br>Because syspkgs works so well? &nbsp; 
<br></div><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">&gt;<br>&gt; So we should move more to pkgsrc? Where do you draw the line?<br>
<br>Kernel, packaging tools, no idea what else.</blockquote><div><br>I&#39;m actually in favor of *more* things that land in a proper crossbuild environment.<br></div><br><br>I see a number of arguments here that I&#39;d classify as &quot;Best is the enemy of Good.&quot;&nbsp; I think that this inclusion will allow us to add greater flexibility to the system in the future and reach more users.
<br><br>And dear god, wtf are we still shipping X11 with the distribution?&nbsp; That should be in pkgsrc!&nbsp; [;-)<br><br>-=erik.<br></div>(Now we just need a lightweight web browser to add to xbase.)<br><br>-- <br>&quot;Exactly two things have made airline travel safer since 9/11: reinforcement of cockpit doors, and passengers who now know that they may have to fight back. Everything else ... is security theater.&quot; --Bruce Schneier

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