Re: NetBSD system package

[maya%netbsd.org@localhost]

On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 11:17:40PM +0900, Yuuki Enomoto wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 12:18:58PM +0000, maya%netbsd.org@localhost wrote:
> > On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 06:23:00AM +0000, Thomas Mueller wrote:
> > > > I am working on wip/basepkg that follows syspkgs project[1]. It can
> > > > make base system packages as syspkg.
> > > 
> > > > I gave an presentations in AsiaBSDCon 2017 and 2018[2]. I am using
> > > > it and it seems to be work well. But it has still a few problems
> > > > (dependency, naming of package, build server, etc).
> > > 
> > > > Source code and usage are here[3]. I want to obtain feedback from
> > > > users of basepkg.
> > > 
> > > > Thank you!
> > > 
> > > > [1] https://wiki.netbsd.org/projects/project/syspkgs/
> > > > [2] http://www.jp.netbsd.org/gallery/presentations/index.html
> > > > [3] https://github.com/user340/basepkg
> > > 
> > > > Yuuki Enomoto <uki%e-yuuki.org@localhost>
> > > 
> > > FreeBSD is also trying something like this, originally intended to be included in FreeBSD 11.0-RELEASE, but that proved far too ambitious.
> > > 
> > > Now FreeBSD is apparently trying to include pkgbase in FreeBSD 12.0, but activity on freebsd-pkgbase%freebsd.org@localhost emailing list is very infrequent.
> > > 
> > > Would NetBSD users have the choice on whether or not to include native X in NetBSD system package, or to use pkgsrc modular-xorg?
> > > 
> > > FreeBSD does not include Xorg in base system, only in ports (their package building and management system, comparable to pkgsrc for NetBSD).
> > 
> > That isn't a "change of direction announcement", it's a project Yuuki
> > Enomoto is working on.
> > 
> > NetBSD/pkgsrc do not impose strong choices about where Xorg comes from.
> > You can use Xorg from pkgsrc if you wish, and not install the X sets.
> > I assume even with basepkg it is still possible.
> > 
> > The current choice for NetBSD is to continue with base Xorg.
> > Keep in mind that NetBSD ships a release with a binary & functional Xorg
> > even for architectures like m68k, and to provide the same from pkgsrc
> > would take large amounts of work.
> > Any change will have to be for select architectures only.
> 
> basepkg is third party project, so it is not NetBSD official project.
> 
> Sorry for confusing you.
> 
> -- 
> Yuuki Enomoto <uki%e-yuuki.org@localhost>


Thanks for working on it. Unfortunately I'm buried in my own projects,
but I suspect agc@ is very interested in similar projects.

Sorry for sounding harsh, I wanted to be clear.