On Mon, 20 Nov 1995 00:49:37 EST 
 Greg Hudson <ghudson@MIT.EDU> wrote:

 > This seems like an overdramatization.  If you want to rely on the
 > "halting" message as a landmark while debugging (it seems more likely
 > that you'd just set a breakpoint in ddb), you could easily add a
 > "transferring control to firmware " message just before transferring
 > control to firmware while you were debugging.  It might take you a
 > minute or two longer, but I don't see it making debugging harder.

Well, I might as well though my $0.02 worth in...

I don't thing that's an overdramatization at all.  In fact, just today I 
was debugging the reboot sequence on the hp300.  DDB would have been 
absolutely useless in this case.  In fact, I was _relying_ on seeing the 
"System hated." message, etc.

Also, you can't assume a port has a working DDB.  There are also lots of 
times where a working printf() can be infinitely more useful than a debugger.

 > I still side with the i386 port's positioning.

I dunno ... after having looked at the code today, the placement of 
doshutdownhooks() looks bogus to me.

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Jason R. Thorpe                                         thorpej@Xenotropic.COM

           Just me and my collection of obsolete computer gear(s).