On Thu, Mar 14, 2002 at 10:28:47AM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote:

 > > That attitude - that the consumer doesn't need to know anything but
 > > some miniscule fraction of the interface to the thing, and that the
 > > jokes that pass for "user manuals" these days are enough to "know how
 > 
 > yes. todays "user manuals" are jokes. nothing more.

I'm not asking you to buy one of these cards.  If you don't like Intel,
don't buy their products.

Side note: not all of Intel is as evil as you think -- take a look at their
I/O processors sometime -- for quite a lot of their stuff, full documentation
is available on the web... it's just their LAN networking products group
that has these NDA issues, and they've had an NDA policy since their first
PCI Ethernet cards came out.

Gee, I wonder if you have any cards that work with the fxp driver...

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        -- Jason R. Thorpe <thorpej@wasabisystems.com>