as long as a ssh patch is being considered.... it took an awful
   long time for me to realize
   
   "stdin: is not a tty"
   
   on scp, was due to a "mesg n" in a non-interactive shell rc
   file... I'm not even sure if this is from the shell or ssh


this one is firmly in the "don't do that" camp.  ie, don't have
"mesg n" run by non-interactive rc files.


.mrg.