I expected this command to return unix seconds of Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 GMT-2 1970; but it returns 0. env TZ='Etc/GMT-2' date -r 0 +%s question 1, is this a bug? question 2, how do I get the desired unix seconds? // George -- George Georgalis, systems architect, administrator <IXOYE>< http://galis.org/ cell:646-331-2027 mailto:george@galis.org