>how about support for ALTQ? of course i would like to sync up with openbsd. >Further, is your goal to replace ipfilter, or be an alternative? not sure. freebsd has 2 packet filters (or 3?) shipped with it and has no problem, so i'd say we can ship both. but ipfilter and PF has very similar syntax, so we could choose to replace ipfilter with PF. itojun