On Monday, October 13, 2003, at 10:40  PM, Jun-ichiro itojun Hagino 
wrote:

> 	by saying "groups" jonathan gave me an impression that NetBSD is the
> 	only BSD which does not incorporate it (we all know there's 3 - or 4 -
> 	BSD groups), which is incorrect.

Ok, fine, but I don't see how that's really relevant as to whether or 
not the change should be incorporated.  It obviously solves a major 
problem, and at least one other group has adopted it as the solution.

         -- Jason R. Thorpe <thorpej@wasabisystems.com>