Subject: Re: broadcast ping response
To: John Nemeth <jnemeth@victoria.tc.ca>
From: Jeff Rizzo <riz@redcrowgroup.com>
List: tech-net
Date: 01/22/2005 16:45:54
John Nemeth wrote:
>On Jun 14, 1:00pm, Eric Haszlakiewicz wrote:
>} On Sat, Jan 22, 2005 at 03:57:21PM -0800, John Nemeth wrote:
>} > Why is NetBSD 2.0 responding to broadcast ICMP ECHO REQUEST (ping)
>} > packets? Is there any way to stop it. Because this is a well known
>} > DOS most modern OSes don't respond, so I'm surprised that current
>} > versions of NetBSD do.
>}
>} DoS? How so? I would think that responding to a ping takes
>} considerably less resources than, say, responding to a connection attempt.
>
> It is a traffic amplification attack. Picture a network with 50+
>machines, which respond to broadcast packets. You send one ping packet
>to the broadcast address and get 50 back. A great way to flood a
>network with very little effort. Send a continuous stream of packets
>and even if you don't have a very high speed network, due to the
>amplification effect you can completely saturate a remote network thus
>making it useless. An even better trick is to fake the source address
>(since ICMP is a connectionless protocol this is easy) and you can get
>some sucker to flood the crap out of a third party. Tracing packets
>with faked source addresses is not easy.
>
>}-- End of excerpt from Eric Haszlakiewicz
>
>
Most well-run networks these days don't forward broadcast pings across
subnets for exactly this reason. If this does get turned off in NetBSD,
I'd at least like a sysctl to be able to turn it back on... it's handy
on a local net.
+j
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