Subject: Re: pgsql's home
To: David Brownlee <abs@NetBSD.org>
From: haad <haaaad@gmail.com>
List: tech-pkg
Date: 04/17/2007 16:30:05
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David Brownlee wrote:
> On Mon, 16 Apr 2007, Johnny C. Lam wrote:
>
>> Geert Hendrickx wrote:
>>> On Sat, Apr 14, 2007 at 06:08:44PM -0400, Louis Guillaume wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Currently the Postgresql-server packages keep are setting the user
>>>> pgsql's home under ${PREFIX}.
>>>>
>>>> Since "files that may be modified after installation" should go in
>>>> $VARBASE, shouldn't we do this?
>>>
>>> Fully agreed, for the obvious reasons (also I like to mount /usr r-o).
>>> I personally put it under ${VARBASE}/db, usually.
>>
>> hier(7) on NetBSD says:
>>
>> /var/ multi-purpose log, temporary, transient, and spool files
>>
>> That doesn't sound at all like what a database should be. I picked
>> ${PREFIX} because that's the only place that pkgsrc really "owns" and
>> controls. In any case, it's usually irrelevant... the pgsql rc.d
>> script always uses the home directory that's set in /etc/passwd for
>> the location of the database.
>
> A while back I sent this to the list for comment but IIRC
> only joerg responded. Resending in the hope its more
> interesting for people now :)
>
> >> Default for HOMEBASE - please comment <<
>
> Currently pkgsrc creates homedirs for pkgsrc system users in
> a variety of places.
>
> I'm proposing a new ${HOMEBASE} variable which would be used as
> the base for any pkgsrc created user's homedir which needs to
> retain persistant state, except where there is already a 'well
> known' directory (such as ${VARBASE}/{mail,news}, or 'chroot')
>
> The question is what should the default be:
>
> a) ${VARBASE}:
> This clutters up ${VARBASE} and is likely to collide with
> some system provided directories on some OSs
>
> b) ${VARBASE}/db:
> hier(4) states "/var/db/" miscellaneous automatically
> generated system-specific database files, and persistent
> files used in the maintenance of third party software.
>
> c) ${VARBASE}/lib:
> FHS 2.3: /var/lib : Variable state information
> This hierarchy holds state information pertaining to
> an application or the system. State information is data
> that programs modify while they run, and that pertains
> to one specific host. Users must never need to modify
> files in /var/lib to configure a package's operation.
>
> d) ${VARBASE}/pkghome: (or variation such as 'pkg', 'pkgsrc')
> Sidesteps the whole issue of overloading existing names in
> a similar fashion to ${PREFIX} in /usr/pkg
>
>
I like idea where we store all pkg data in specific dir. like binaries in
/usr/pkg because I can then easily remove all pkgsrc packages from system.
I prefer to have new subdirectory for this purpose in ${VARBASE}/pkg or
new variable called ${PKGBASE} which for default points to /srv/pkg.
/srv as dir can be used for all server related data as htdoc for
apache(/srv/pkg/www),pgsql home(/srv/pkg/pgsql) and etc..
Regards
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