Subject: re: secure flags
To: None <perry@piermont.com>
From: matthew green <mrg@eterna.com.au>
List: tech-security
Date: 02/05/1999 11:43:53
Thor Lancelot Simon <tls@rek.tjls.com> writes:
> By the way, I *seriously* question the utility of using file flags to
> "secure" a system. To get any serious guarantee, every program run
> from rc (or any script it runs) while securelevel is zero must be marked
> schg; also, rc, rc.conf, etc. must be marked schg. A system set up that
> way is almost as irritating to run as a system with a read-only root fs.
>
> (Note that I in fact actually run systems which are each way, so I know
> whereof I speak.)
I agree. Frankly, I'd prefer that we forget about putting any such
hacks into the distributed system. They're a real pain in the neck for
ordinary users, and almost impossible to get "right" to provide actual
extra security for non-ordinary users.
would you please *read* this thread. it is about adding a way TO
secure an installed system, not about having the distributed system
be a PITA to change. actually, with what is being proposed, the
general idea is to make it _easy_ for the sysadmin to use these
flags in a sane manner!
i strongly support lex's proposal.