On Mon, Dec 18, 2000 at 02:57:27PM -0800, Simon J. Gerraty wrote:

 > My bad - I was trying to get that out before rushing off to look
 > after the kids, I should have been more explicit in that SSL (which 
 > is what my stelnet uses)  and to a lesser extent SSH provide said integrity 
 > checks.

Well, SSHv2 uses MACs, so it has real integrity checking.  There are
also some SSHv1 implementations that have added additional ciphers
that also use MACs.

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        -- Jason R. Thorpe <thorpej@zembu.com>