Re: IETF in Seoul.

[Jon Bright <jon%siliconcircus.com@localhost>]

Niels Möller wrote:

> Bill Sommerfeld <sommerfeld%east.sun.com@localhost> writes:
>
> > History over the past couple years has shown this working group
> > tends to have fairly sparse attendance at non-north-american
> > IETF's.
>
> Hmm, why is the statistics so bad for Europe? There are quite a few 
> ssh developers living over here, as far as I know. (I've only ever 
> been to one ietf meeting, in Oslo a few years ago, but it turned out 
> there was no secsh meeting that time. Oslo is just some five hours by
>  train from home).

Now that I've started taking a slightly more active part in this WG, I'd
certainly be happy to go to any IETF within reasonable travelling
distance (which for me means within about 1000km of Dortmund, Germany),
*but* it's difficult to justify the $500 outlay for the registration
fee.  Adding intercontinental airfare and hotel costs to that makes it 
even less possible.  A quick estimate shows attending the IETF in Seoul 
would cost 1533EUR before hotel costs, probably 2000EUR including hotel, 
probably 2500EUR by the time incidentals are added.  For (e.g.) Sun, 
this is a drop in the ocean - for us, unless there's some benefit of 
attendance I'm unaware of, the cost/benefit doesn't work out.  I'd guess 
this applies to a lot of people who don't have large corporate 
employers/sponsors.

> > I'll be in Seoul, but before I request a meeting slot I'd like to
> > hear from active WG participants to get a sense as to whether we'll
> > have critical mass for any of our work areas..

I won't be there :-)

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