Re: pkgsrc vs. binary packages

[Neal Hogan <nealhogan%gmail.com@localhost>]

On 10/13/11, Greg Troxel <gdt%ir.bbn.com@localhost> wrote:
>
> Neal Hogan <nealhogan%gmail.com@localhost> writes:
>
>> I have a  basic 5.1, i386 install and want to have a browser that has
>> flash 10 capabilities (ch 10 of the netbsd documentation). I can
>> install midori, xfce4, and vim no prob via remote binary (i.e.,
>> pkg_add -v xyz). It seems that nspluginwrapper is not a binary pkg, so
>> I attempt to install it via pkgsrc but there is a dependency
>> discrepancy (i.e., the version of, say, python, that pkgsrc wants for
>> nspluginwrapper is not the version that has been installed as a
>> dependency of another pkg install . . . again, the only other packages
>> that I've installed is vim, xfce4, and midori).
>>
>> Is there an issue with keeping versions of pkgsrc-packages and binary
>> packages consistent? That is, why am I encountering dependency
>> discrepancies between packages?
>
> Two points:
>
>   many things are available via source but not binary packages because
>   they are non-Free, but the distfiles are available from upstream
>
>   you can mix/match compiling and binary packages, but you must take
>   care that they are from the same version of pkgsrc
>
>
> So, what I would recommend that you do is:
>
>   find a set of packages from a bulk build that you want to use
>
>   figure out which stable branch they are built from
>
>   get the sources from that same branch
>
>

OK . . . I appreciate the response, but things are still odd. I get
the idea to stay within a certain build and branch and version and etc
. . . I just finished a clean install (i.e., started over)  of an
i386.5.1 set and attempted to install midori (i.e., the first package)
via bianry from
PKG_PATH="ftp://ftp.NetBSD.org/pub/NetBSD/packages/5.1/i386/All"; and I
get

 ". . . Can't install dependency gtk2+=2.22.1nb1
 . . . Can't install dependency gnome-themes-[0-9]*
. . .1 package addition failed"

Note that this is a clean install and the first package install (attempt).

What am I missing? I'm frustrated b'cause the docs seem so straight
forward . . . set a path and pkg_add or d'load a stable pkgsrc and
install that way.  . . but both ways have failed me.

I'm going off of the main mirror and I'd like nothing better than to
have a *BSD system that can play flash for my 4 yr old (PBS.org is
flash based *at this point*).

Why can I not install a basic 5.1 NetBSD system and install 5.1
packages from the main mirror?

I appreciate your patience and help (and criticism/"fun-making")

-Neal

> So if you use:
>
>   ftp://ftp.netbsd.org/pub/pkgsrc/packages/NetBSD/i386/5.1_2011Q2/All/
>
> then
>
>   cvs up -r pkgsrc-2011Q2
>
> and then the version that pkgsrc sources say you should have will match
> the binary versions you have installed.
>
>
> You may decide that you want to have newer versions of some things but
> not update everything.  That can sort of work, but it really doesn't in
> general.  So my advice is to either
>
>   stick with the tag for the binaries you are using (easier, less up to
> date)
>
> or
>
>   build everything from source (harder, more up to date)
>