Re: cvs->git?

[bch%methodlogic.net@localhost]

On Wed, Aug 04, 2010 at 10:11:26PM +0200, Jan ?mydke wrote:
> So to sum up my impression of your replies:
> 
> - There is no strong desire to change the version control, mainly
>   because the pkgsrc users do not see much benefit of doing it
> 
> - But the users are open to adopt it as long as NetBSD project switches
>   from CVS to something else
> 
> Two additional notes:
> 
> - I would definitely benefit from any decentralized VCS. At work I
>   cannot use 'cvs up' because of a firewall... so I have to stupidly
>   download the pkgsrc-wip-snapshot and unpack... every time I want to
>   update. Instead I could update from a git-repo from my other site very
>   easily...
> 
> - Still thinking over the problem of the very limited pkgsrc
>   (and NetBSD) community. I don't dare to claim a faster VCS would flood
>   the project with new developers, but I believe it is one of the most
>   significant obstacles. When a Linux-bored guy checks NetBSD and sees
>   quite a messy web-site, he may hesitate, but finding out it is all
>   CVS-based - what? Sorry, bye. (What a pity for him, and for us!)
> 
> Best,
> 
> JS

I was alerted to this thread in #netbsd, and am getting into thread
at first opportunity after subscribing to ML, so excuse non-ideal
placement :)

To put another candidate into the mix which -does-
have a hope of inclusion in NetBSD, please see fossil
(http://fossil-scm.org), and see tech-repository thread at
http://mail-index.netbsd.org/tech-repository/2010/01/18/msg000345.html
for the discussion that occurred there.

Looking forward to more exploration!

Cheers,

-bch

ps: I see Peter's email right below. He's one that alerted me in
#netbsd. "maw" Peter :)

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> On Wed, 4 Aug 2010 15:44:21 +0200
> Peter Bex <Peter.Bex%xs4all.nl@localhost> wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, Aug 04, 2010 at 03:22:30PM +0200, Jan ?mydke wrote:
> > > 4. I don't like git. It takes a while to get used to its concept
> > > and to find and memorize just a few commands one need.
> > > 
> > > On the other hand, it is perhaps the only system applicable for
> > > pkgsrc stuff these days (svn may be OK - but it's just an improved
> > > CVS; mercurial has wrong concept in my view; darcs is COOL but
> > > portability is POOR and the performance too; monotone or bzr...
> > > hardly) Git is really fast and efficient.
> > > 
> > > But CVS is even harder to use than git (I use it only for pkgsrc
> > > and do not understand it). (May be a question of a particular
> > > opinion)
> > 
> > CVS is what's used by NetBSD itself.  I think it's fair to assume
> > people using NetBSD will at least be familiar with it.
> > 
> > There is also experimentation being done for NetBSD with Fossil
> > (fossil-scm.org) pkgsrc-wip could be a good place to further this
> > experimentation. Fossil also is very small and has zero dependencies,
> > whereas git has quite a lot of obnoxious dependencies.
> > 
> > Perhaps ASau or someone involved with this Fossil stuff could pitch
> > in?
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > Peter
> 
> 
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