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Re: tried to isntall NetBSD-6.1_RC2 on a VS3100 M38



Holm Tiffe wrote:

> Martin Husemann wrote:
> 
> > On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 01:29:14PM +0100, Martin Husemann wrote:
> > > A -current install works fine at least on simh for a 3900:
> > 
> > ... which is probably not very close to your machine.
> > A VS4000/96 works fine as well:
> > 
> > MicroVAX 4000/90
> > total memory = 127 MB
> > avail memory = 120 MB
> > timecounter: Timecounters tick every 10.000 msec
> > mainbus0 (root)
> > cpu0 at mainbus0: KA49, NVAX, 10KB L1 cache, 256KB L2 cache
> > 
> > Martin
> 
> There was an OpenBSD3.6 on this machine before and it was running
> flawlessly.
> I do have a VS4000/90 and a 3100/M76 here too and I have every time
> I'm trying to install NetBSD some unexpected results.
> 
> Since I do have the OpenBSD 5.2 files here, I'll try to install it
> later this day on the vs3138, showing the results here.
> After that we can talk again abount NetBSD ok?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Holm
> 
> -- 

Ok.
I've installed OpenBSD 5.2 now on exactly this machine, booted the
installed system and it is now doing one of the last steps before
it is ready to use, it is generating the ssh host key (which seems to
take ages..)

The installation went ok w/o any glitch, no coredump, no illegal
instruction.
I've stopped the generation of the ssh host key since it wanted to run for
ages..

Here ist the OpenBSD log:

http://www.tiffe.de/other/openbsd.instlog


I had some mails in the meantime with Martin and he suggest's to ask here
if one has an actual NetBSD or a -current running on a similar VAX Station.
Again, I'm currently have an VS3100 M38 on the table, equipped with 24MB
RAM, I'm also interested in the Results for an VS3100 M76 with 16MB RAM
since I've tried on this machine before and the results where very similar
on ther uglyness at all. Currently on this machine is OpenBSD 5.2 which is
the cause that I had the openBSD files handy here.

I'm not interested in Results from SIMH or in "should work"s at all. I know
that it should, but I'm pretty sure it dosn't work. At least not the
install with netbooting using that

ftp://ftp.netbsd.org/pub/NetBSD/NetBSD-6.1_RC2/vax/installation/netboot/install.ram.gz

install kernel.

Again: I've used the distribution files from NetBSD.org, not anything self
build or modified.


After the test above now again netbsd on the same machine with a freshly
downloaded isntall.ram.gz file:


b esa0


-ESA0


>> NetBSD/vax boot [1.11] <<

>> Press any key to abort autoboot  54

Press '?' for help

> boot install.ram

Trying BOOTP

Using IP address: 192.168.50.23

myip: vs3138 (192.168.50.23)

root addr=192.168.50.50 path=/data/home/exports/rtvax

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NetBSD 6.1_RC2 (INSTALL)

VAXstation 3100/m{38,48}

total memory = 24436 KB

avail memory = 19996 KB

mainbus0 (root)

cpu0 at mainbus0: KA420, CVAX, 1KB L1 cache, 64KB L2 cache

vsbus0 at mainbus0

vsbus0: interrupt mask 8

le0 at vsbus0 csr 0x200e0000 vec 120 ipl 17 maskbit 5 buf 0x44a000-0x459fff

le0: address 08:00:2b:13:b1:a0

le0: 32 receive buffers, 8 transmit buffers

dz0 at vsbus0 csr 0x200a0000 vec 304 ipl 17 maskbit 6

dz0: 4 lines

lkkbd0 at dz0

wskbd0 at lkkbd0 (mux ignored)

si0 at vsbus0 csr 0x200c0080 vec 770 ipl 17 maskbit 1

si0: NCR5380, SCSI ID 6

scsibus0 at si0: 8 targets, 8 luns per target

si1 at vsbus0 csr 0x200c0180 vec 774 ipl 17 maskbit 0

si1: NCR5380, SCSI ID 6

scsibus1 at si1: 8 targets, 8 luns per target

smg0 at vsbus0 csr 0x200f0000 vec 104 ipl 17 maskbit 3

smg0: could not find 8x15 font

scsibus0: waiting 2 seconds for devices to settle...

scsibus1: waiting 2 seconds for devices to settle...

sd0 at scsibus0 target 1 lun 0: <IBM, DCAS-34330, S63A> disk fixed

sd0: 4028 MB, 8205 cyl, 6 head, 167 sec, 512 bytes/sect x 8250001 sectors

sd0: async, 8-bit transfers

boot device: le0

root on md0a dumps on md0b

root file system type: ffs

erase ^?, werase ^W, kill ^U, intr ^C

(B)0(B)0[?1h=
 NetBSD/vax 6.1_RC2

 This menu-driven tool is designed to help you install NetBSD to a hard disk,
 or upgrade an existing NetBSD system, with a minimum of work.
 In the following menus type the reference letter (a, b, c, ...) to select an
 item, or type CTRL+N/CTRL+P to select the next/previous item.
 The arrow keys and Page-up/Page-down may also work.
 Activate the current selection from the menu by typing the enter key.
 
lqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqkx>a:
 Installation messages in 
Englishxx b: Messages 
d'installation en français      xx c: Installation auf 
Deutschxx d: Komunikaty instalacyjne w jezyku polskim 
xx e: Mensajes de instalacion en castellano    
xmqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqj
 If you booted from a floppy, you may now remove the disk.
 Thank you for using NetBSD!
 lqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqkx 
NetBSD-6.1_RC2 Install 
Systemxxxx>a: Install 
NetBSD to hard diskxx b: Upgrade NetBSD on a hard 
diskxx c: Re-install sets or install additional sets 
xx d: Reboot the computerxx e: Utility 
menuxx f: Config menuxx x: 
Exit Install 
Systemxmqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqj
 You have chosen to install NetBSD on your hard disk.  This will change
 information on your hard disk.  You should have made a full backup before
 this procedure!  This procedure will do the following things:
         a) Partition your disk
         b) Create new BSD file systems
         c) Load and install distribution sets
         d) Some initial system configuration
 
 (After you enter the partition information but before your disk is changed,
 you will have the opportunity to quit this procedure.)   
 
 Shall we 
continue?lqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqkx
 yes or no?    xxxx>a: 
Noxx b: Yes        
xmqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqj a: No>b: 
Yes
 
 
 
         
         
         
         

 
 

 

 I found only one disk, sd0 (3.9G, IBM DCAS-34330).
 Therefore I assume you want to install NetBSD on it.
 lqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqkx>Hit enter to 
continuexmqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqj


 The NetBSD distribution is broken into a collection of distribution sets.
 There are some basic sets that are needed by all installations and there are
 some other sets that are not needed by all installations.  You may choose to
 install a core set (Minimal installation), all of them (Full installation) or
 you select from the optional distribution sets.
 lqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqkx Select your 
distribution    xxxx>a: Full 
installationxx b: 
Installation without X11 xx c: Minimal installation     
xx d: Custom installation      
xmqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqj
MMMMMM
 NetBSD uses a BSD disklabel to carve up the NetBSD portion of the disk into
 multiple BSD partitions.  You must now set up your BSD disklabel.

 You can use a simple editor to set the sizes of the NetBSD partitions, or
 keep the existing partition sizes and contents.

 You will then be given the opportunity to change any of the disklabel fields.
 
 The NetBSD part of your disk is 4028 Megabytes.  A full installation requires
 at least 230 Megabytes without X and at least 265 Megabytes if the X sets are
 
included.lqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqkx
 Choose your installation          
xxxx>a: Set sizes of NetBSD 
partitionsxx b: Use existing partition sizes   
xmqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqj
 You can now change the sizes for the system partitions.  The default is to 
 allocate all the space to the root file system, however you may wish to have
 separate /usr (additional system files), /var (log files etc) or /homuid 0, 
pid 6, command sysinst, on /: file system full

e
 (users' home directpid 6 (sysinst): user write of 24228@0x196000 at 64560 
failed: 28

ories).
 
 Free space will be added to the partition marked with a '+'.
 

 
 
 

        MB         Cylinders   Sectors   Filesystem
 

/: write failed, file system is full

[1]   Illegal instruction     sysinst
# 


I've just pressed a to chose the partitioning...that nice looking curses wasn't 
my
idea at all :-)

So NetBSD is broken, not my machine.


Regards,

Holm
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