Re: tried to isntall NetBSD-6.1_RC2 on a VS3100 M38

[Holm Tiffe <holm%freibergnet.de@localhost>]

Holm Tiffe wrote:

> Holm Tiffe wrote:
> 
> > Martin Husemann wrote:
> > 
> > > On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 01:29:14PM +0100, Martin Husemann wrote:
> > > > A -current install works fine at least on simh for a 3900:
> > > 
> > > ... which is probably not very close to your machine.
> > > A VS4000/96 works fine as well:
> > > 
> > > MicroVAX 4000/90
> > > total memory = 127 MB
> > > avail memory = 120 MB
> > > timecounter: Timecounters tick every 10.000 msec
> > > mainbus0 (root)
> > > cpu0 at mainbus0: KA49, NVAX, 10KB L1 cache, 256KB L2 cache
> > > 
> > > Martin
> > 
> > There was an OpenBSD3.6 on this machine before and it was running
> > flawlessly.
> > I do have a VS4000/90 and a 3100/M76 here too and I have every time
> > I'm trying to install NetBSD some unexpected results.
> > 
> > Since I do have the OpenBSD 5.2 files here, I'll try to install it
> > later this day on the vs3138, showing the results here.
> > After that we can talk again abount NetBSD ok?
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> > Holm
> > 
> > -- 
> 
> Ok.
> I've installed OpenBSD 5.2 now on exactly this machine, booted the
> installed system and it is now doing one of the last steps before
> it is ready to use, it is generating the ssh host key (which seems to
> take ages..)
> 
> The installation went ok w/o any glitch, no coredump, no illegal
> instruction.
> I've stopped the generation of the ssh host key since it wanted to run for
> ages..
> 
> Here ist the OpenBSD log:
> 
> http://www.tiffe.de/other/openbsd.instlog
> 
> 
> I had some mails in the meantime with Martin and he suggest's to ask here
> if one has an actual NetBSD or a -current running on a similar VAX Station.
> Again, I'm currently have an VS3100 M38 on the table, equipped with 24MB
> RAM, I'm also interested in the Results for an VS3100 M76 with 16MB RAM
> since I've tried on this machine before and the results where very similar
> on ther uglyness at all. Currently on this machine is OpenBSD 5.2 which is
> the cause that I had the openBSD files handy here.
> 
> I'm not interested in Results from SIMH or in "should work"s at all. I know
> that it should, but I'm pretty sure it dosn't work. At least not the
> install with netbooting using that
> 
> ftp://ftp.netbsd.org/pub/NetBSD/NetBSD-6.1_RC2/vax/installation/netboot/install.ram.gz
> 
> install kernel.
> 
> Again: I've used the distribution files from NetBSD.org, not anything self
> build or modified.
> 
> 
> After the test above now again netbsd on the same machine with a freshly
> downloaded isntall.ram.gz file:
> 
> 
> b esa0
> 
> 
> -ESA0
> 

>> NetBSD/vax boot [1.11] <<
> 
>> Press any key to abort autoboot  54
> 
Press '?' for help
> 
> boot install.ram
> 
Trying BOOTP
> 
Using IP address: 192.168.50.23
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myip: vs3138 (192.168.50.23)
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root addr=192.168.50.50 path=/data/home/exports/rtvax
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> 
NetBSD 6.1_RC2 (INSTALL)
> 
VAXstation 3100/m{38,48}
> 
total memory = 24436 KB
> 
avail memory = 19996 KB
> 
mainbus0 (root)
> 
cpu0 at mainbus0: KA420, CVAX, 1KB L1 cache, 64KB L2 cache
> 
vsbus0 at mainbus0
> 
vsbus0: interrupt mask 8
> 
le0 at vsbus0 csr 0x200e0000 vec 120 ipl 17 maskbit 5 buf 0x44a000-0x459fff
> 
le0: address 08:00:2b:13:b1:a0
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le0: 32 receive buffers, 8 transmit buffers
> 
dz0 at vsbus0 csr 0x200a0000 vec 304 ipl 17 maskbit 6
> 
dz0: 4 lines
> 
lkkbd0 at dz0
> 
wskbd0 at lkkbd0 (mux ignored)
> 
si0 at vsbus0 csr 0x200c0080 vec 770 ipl 17 maskbit 1
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si0: NCR5380, SCSI ID 6
> 
scsibus0 at si0: 8 targets, 8 luns per target
> 
si1 at vsbus0 csr 0x200c0180 vec 774 ipl 17 maskbit 0
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si1: NCR5380, SCSI ID 6
> 
scsibus1 at si1: 8 targets, 8 luns per target
> 
smg0 at vsbus0 csr 0x200f0000 vec 104 ipl 17 maskbit 3
> 
smg0: could not find 8x15 font
> 
scsibus0: waiting 2 seconds for devices to settle...
> 
scsibus1: waiting 2 seconds for devices to settle...
> 
sd0 at scsibus0 target 1 lun 0: <IBM, DCAS-34330, S63A> disk fixed
> 
sd0: 4028 MB, 8205 cyl, 6 head, 167 sec, 512 bytes/sect x 8250001 sectors
> 
sd0: async, 8-bit transfers
> 
boot device: le0
> 
root on md0a dumps on md0b
> 
root file system type: ffs
> 
erase ^?, werase ^W, kill ^U, intr ^C
> 
> (B)0(B)0[?1h=
>  NetBSD/vax 6.1_RC2
> 
>  This menu-driven tool is designed to help you install NetBSD to a hard disk,
>  or upgrade an existing NetBSD system, with a minimum of work.
>  In the following menus type the reference letter (a, b, c, ...) to select an
>  item, or type CTRL+N/CTRL+P to select the next/previous item.
>  The arrow keys and Page-up/Page-down may also work.
>  Activate the current selection from the menu by typing the enter key.
>  
> lqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqkx>a:
>  Installation messages in 
> Englishxx b: Messages 
> d'installation en français      xx c: Installation auf 
> Deutschxx d: Komunikaty instalacyjne w jezyku 
> polskim xx e: Mensajes de instalacion en castellano    
> xmqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqj
>  If you booted from a floppy, you may now remove the disk.
>  Thank you for using NetBSD!
>  lqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqkx 
> NetBSD-6.1_RC2 Install 
> Systemxxxx>a: 
> Install NetBSD to hard diskxx b: Upgrade NetBSD 
> on a hard diskxx c: Re-install sets or install 
> additional sets xx d: Reboot the 
> computerxx e: Utility 
> menuxx f: Config menuxx 
> x: Exit Install 
> Systemxmqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqj
>  You have chosen to install NetBSD on your hard disk.  This will change
>  information on your hard disk.  You should have made a full backup before
>  this procedure!  This procedure will do the following things:
>          a) Partition your disk
>          b) Create new BSD file systems
>          c) Load and install distribution sets
>          d) Some initial system configuration
>  
>  (After you enter the partition information but before your disk is changed,
>  you will have the opportunity to quit this procedure.)   
>  
>  Shall we 
> continue?lqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqkx
>  yes or no?    xxxx>a: 
> Noxx b: Yes        
> xmqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqj a: No>b: 
> Yes
>  
>  
>  
>          
>          
>          
>          
> 
>  
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  I found only one disk, sd0 (3.9G, IBM DCAS-34330).
>  Therefore I assume you want to install NetBSD on it.
>  lqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqkx>Hit enter to 
> continuexmqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqj
> 
> 
>  The NetBSD distribution is broken into a collection of distribution sets.
>  There are some basic sets that are needed by all installations and there are
>  some other sets that are not needed by all installations.  You may choose to
>  install a core set (Minimal installation), all of them (Full installation) or
>  you select from the optional distribution sets.
>  lqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqkx Select your 
> distribution    xxxx>a: Full 
> installationxx b: 
> Installation without X11 xx c: Minimal installation     
> xx d: Custom installation      
> xmqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqj
> MMMMMM
>  NetBSD uses a BSD disklabel to carve up the NetBSD portion of the disk into
>  multiple BSD partitions.  You must now set up your BSD disklabel.
> 
>  You can use a simple editor to set the sizes of the NetBSD partitions, or
>  keep the existing partition sizes and contents.
> 
>  You will then be given the opportunity to change any of the disklabel fields.
>  
>  The NetBSD part of your disk is 4028 Megabytes.  A full installation requires
>  at least 230 Megabytes without X and at least 265 Megabytes if the X sets are
>  
> included.lqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqkx
>  Choose your installation          
> xxxx>a: Set sizes of NetBSD 
> partitionsxx b: Use existing partition sizes   
> xmqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqj
>  You can now change the sizes for the system partitions.  The default is to 
>  allocate all the space to the root file system, however you may wish to have
>  separate /usr (additional system files), /var (log files etc) or /homuid 0, 
> pid 6, command sysinst, on /: file system full
> 
e
>  (users' home directpid 6 (sysinst): user write of 24228@0x196000 at 64560 
> failed: 28
> 
ories).
>  
>  Free space will be added to the partition marked with a '+'.
>  
> 
>  
>  
>  
> 
>         MB         Cylinders   Sectors   Filesystem
>  

> /: write failed, file system is full

> [1]   Illegal instruction     sysinst
> # 
> 
> 
> I've just pressed a to chose the partitioning...that nice looking curses 
> wasn't my
> idea at all :-)
> 
> So NetBSD is broken, not my machine.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Holm
> -- 

In the meantime I've set up a NFS root, booted the netbsd generic kernel
looked at the openbsd disklabel and tried newfs:

track-to-track seek: 8250001    # microseconds
drivedata: 0 

8 partitions:
#        size    offset     fstype [fsize bsize cpg/sgs]
 a:   1842384        16     4.2BSD      0     0     1  # (Cyl.      0*-
114*)
 b:    524288   1842400       swap                     # (Cyl.    114*-
147*)
 c:   8250001         0     unused      0     0        # (Cyl.      0 -
513*)
 d:   5025728   2366688     4.2BSD      0     0     1  # (Cyl.    147*-
460*)
 e:    857504   7392416     4.2BSD      0     0     1  # (Cyl.    460*-
513*)
partition> W
Label disk [n]? y
disklabel: warning, revolutions/minute 0
Label written
partition> Q
vs3138# newfs sd0a
/dev/rsd0a: 899.6MB (1842384 sectors) block size 8192, fragment size 1024
        using 20 cylinder groups of 44.98MB, 5758 blks, 11200 inodes.
[1]   Segmentation fault (core dumped) newfs sd0a
vs3138# newfs sd0d
[1]   Illegal instruction (core dumped) newfs sd0d
vs3138# newfs rsd0d
[1]   Illegal instruction (core dumped) newfs rsd0d
vs3138# 

...Giving up here, this doesn't make any sense anymore..

Regards,

Holm
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